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Distinguished speakers at the conference included Elder Hartman Rector Jr.

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Meldrum, Wayne N. May, Bruce H. Porter Ph. See the bio's of these amazing speakers HERE.

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It was an wonderful event with so many great individuals from so many places. Each of these speakers did so completely at their own expense which is characteristic of their individual caliber and quality. A second article titled " North America preferred site for LDS film " discusses the brilliant keynote address of the conference by award winning filmmaker Kieth Merrill , who wrote and directed The Testaments for the Church.

Click HERE to see all three news clips! David Lindsley's new painting " Children of Light ". Jason Millward's newly completed sculpture of Lehi's landing in North America. Jason Millward's new sculpture " Visions of the Past " depicting the Zelph accounts.

David J. Want to learn what all the excitement is about? Email Marketing by. October , In This Report. See the Sword! They give firesides and at these firesides they will promote their books and DVDs and sell them in the foyers of church buildings and criticize those who feel differently from them.

They use ringers in their audience to say the answers they want to hear such as the quote "from the east to the rocky mountains, now brothers and sisters what body of water would that be referring to? Nothing wrong with the tours and nothing wrong in giving tours IMO just dont use the church to say your right and others are wrong or as a means to build up money rather than building up faith.

I really, really, respect Mark Wright in this way.

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He sells no books, he sells no DVDs, he does not say others are wrong, He only asks for a place to stay and reimbursement for his traveling to get to wherever his fireside is. He promotes not a single thing that will add to his wallet. His main purpose in his firesides are to bring people to a greater love for the Book of Mormon to build their faith and to show interesting facts about Mesoamerica that could fit well within that Holy and Inspired book.

He lets you make up your own mind and it doesn't offend him if they do not match with his own ideas. America must be the promised land because it is OUR promised land and the Book of Mormon says several times that it was written for US! No doubt Mark Wright is clearly the Mesoamerican Bomb! He has acquired an expertise and should be, in my opinion, handsomely rewarded for his efforts.

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I have no problem with scholars, lecturers, authors, tour guides, etc. If, however, Mark was to make his living this way while attacking other Latter-day Saints who disagree with his ideas as individuals who are unwilling to give credit to the Prophet Joseph Smith because they were making too much money off of their views, when in truth only Mark and not those who disagreed with him was really earning "so much money," I would have a major problem with Mark's approach.

Fortunately for those of us who admire Mark, it's the authors of the now infamous LDS snake oil book that opt for this hypocritical approach, not Mark Wright. Well, Porter's co-author Rod Meldrum did announce that he asked God for a sign, and God gave him a sign, to quit his job and do this full time. You're not arguing with a sign from God, are you? I couldn't agree more. I'm honestly beginning to believe that there is an unholy desire connected with fortune and fame that lies at the root of these divisive efforts. I too was disturbed by the line:. I work for the Church and have never, EVER in my entire life been told to use only the scriptures, Joseph Smith, and the words of the living Prophets for my research.

Such a stance would directly violate the Lord's mandate to seek words of wisdom out of all of the best books. Moreover, I'm bothered by the implicit suggestion that believing scholars who adhere to a Mesoamerican geographic model somehow do not use these things in their research. I work for the Church and have never, EVER in my entire life been told to use only the scriptures, Joseph Smith, and the word of the living Prophets for my research.

Such a stance would directly violate the Lord's mandate to seek words of wisdom out of the best books. Yes that is what I meant. I have no problem with scholars selling their books. In fact I have one of yours and six of Brother Gardners and about a hundred others I like to see the authors at Deseret Book or some other book store so I can have a signed copy. But I think it is wrong to have them being sold from a church gym or foyer for ones own profit, IMO it looks bad, some fund raisers like bake sales are okay.

I have no problem with brother Meldrum or Porter or anyone else selling their stuff from a secular place. I still however have major problems like the ones you mentioned in the OP on their tactics. FWIW, when I read Bruce Porter's statement, I immediately sensed that he was talking about those he views as competitors, chiefly, those who lead tours in Central America.


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I assume. I never felt he was going after LDS scholars per se, just those who were profiting directly from leading tours. Certainly,however, it would be to his advantage if prominent LDS scholars espoused Porter's views. Mesoamerica tour leaders I suppose have that "endorsement", if you want to use that term. Yes, it is business, but I don't see it as a negative unless he has agreed to something specific in his employment preventing him from marketing his claims.

Perhaps he has done that.

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I wouldn't know. I assume he has designs on or does lead BofM tours in North America. Meldrum, Porter's co-author, certainly has gone after any and all who disagreed. He cited material from Sorenson, Matt Roper, and Jeff Lindsay and then juxtaposed it with a quote from Pres Hinckley about rejecting the fruit of the gospel, etc. Roper and Lindsay certainly aren't making money of Mesoamerica, or leading tours there.

I doubt that Sorenson does either. Sorenson's written a few books, but I doubt he's made much money on them, especially considering that he was circulating these ideas since the mid s--pretty lousy income stream if you wait until to write your first book. There's also Porter quotes on the the new 5 disc DVD which make it very clear that the net is pretty broad, and not limited to those who are leading tours.

If you don't agree that Joseph knew where the Book of Mormon happened AND that Meldrum and Porter got it right, then you're dismissing and rejecting Joseph's prophetic call. Isn't everything a sell? I would not feel right taking people's money to show them a complete hypothetical. Guiding tours is something I've been doing on an amateur basis for years back home in Israel, and had nearly taken the course to become licensed, before my plans changed.

For me, if I take someone somewhere it has to be honest on my part, providing them with the very best for their money, so to speak. One thing i don't like is how they claim the Lord has told us were it all is. This is one of the major techniques employed by Meldrum and his associates. They actively cast doubt on the motivations of people who make arguments in opposition to them. This is usually done in two ways. First, as seen in the discussion above, they argue that people cannot back down from their positions because it will hurt them financially.

Second, they argue that scholars have built their entire careers on a position, and that they cannot reverse their arguments without invalidating their life's work. These kind of song-and-dance moves reveal the weakness of their position and their lack of consideration for the maintenance of a research-oriented dialog. If their position was that strong, they could simply focus on it and let the argument stand on its own.

Unfortunately for them, their position is not strong, and they feel the need to supplement their arguments with these kinds of superficial props. Look at the.